Chloe
Nov 3 2010, 05:16 PM
PS: I'm excited by my summer internship search involving talking with representatives from EA and LucasArts
UC: Haha, as if though
Dr. Roffles
Nov 3 2010, 05:26 PM
QUOTE (Research Monkey @ Nov 3 2010, 05:22 AM)

There's work to be done yet by the Maricopa County Democratic Party

While I'd probably ask you to high five your parents on the way out on my behalf, there's is much to be done...
my dad's still treasurer of the state party (though probably not for long, he's frustrated with how things are going within the party as well as outside of it) and my mom's still on the school board so they probably won't move immediately. god only knows when they'd move. they aren't sure they want my brother going to an arizona school for college, though, given the imminent funding crunch the pearce-led legislature is going to strike down on AZ schools. and they might just move to be closer to wherever my bro ends up in college. it's a tough situation. i really hope they don't move, I like Arizona and it would be a pity to have to bum rooms off friends or stay in a hotel every time I go to visit friends :\
AK_WDB
Nov 3 2010, 05:49 PM
In other news, life is good today as an Alaskan.
tryingtothinkagain
Nov 3 2010, 05:56 PM
QUOTE (overly_critical_man @ Nov 3 2010, 10:37 AM)

QUOTE (tryingtothinkagain @ Nov 3 2010, 06:35 AM)

UC: She's living with her boyfriend that she's been with for the past 5 years, and she's got a promise ring. Not the Christian abstinence kind.
PS?: They've broken up multiple times in the past
AF: But it's not sounding like there's much of a chance of it happening again in the future.
Get the hell out of there, man. Live grenade!
Shallow: she's a 5' 2", 100-lb dancer. think about it.
Serious: she's the single most practical, sane, level-headed girl I've ever met (with maybe one exception), and we share a ton of interests
Joking: I'd dive on that grenade
overly_critical_man
Nov 3 2010, 06:08 PM
A level-headed, "practical" girl that's willing to cheat on a long-term bf?
Yeah...she's totally GF material there, man.
Get your head out of your pants, kid.
AK_WDB
Nov 3 2010, 06:09 PM
QUOTE (overly_critical_man @ Nov 3 2010, 09:08 AM)

A level-headed, "practical" girl that's willing to cheat on a long-term bf?
Yeah...she's totally GF material there, man.
Get your head out of your pants, kid.
QFT
tryingtothinkagain
Nov 3 2010, 06:10 PM
Never said anything about cheating. She's shown no indications that she'd be willing to cheat. I'm playing the long game here.
AK_WDB
Nov 3 2010, 06:15 PM
QUOTE (tryingtothinkagain @ Nov 3 2010, 09:10 AM)

Never said anything about cheating. She's shown no indications that she'd be willing to cheat. I'm playing the long game here.
Have you met her boyfriend? If not, you should. Then you'll be able to put a face and a soul on the person whose life you're trying to screw over by "playing the long game". Might make you think twice.
Research Monkey
Nov 3 2010, 06:17 PM
QUOTE (tryingtothinkagain @ Nov 3 2010, 11:10 AM)

Never said anything about cheating. She's shown no indications that she'd be willing to cheat. I'm playing the long game here.
That is the worst idea.
tryingtothinkagain
Nov 3 2010, 06:25 PM
I'm not compassionate enough for that to work, especially when it comes to other males. And I'm not actively trying to break them up or get her to cheat on him. That would be a dick move. Honestly, in all likelihood we will never see or talk to each other again after this next spring, though getting to know her has been a very pleasant experience.
EDIT: Perhaps my level of activity in this matter has been miscommunicated. I am not actively pursuing her, I'm just observing the situation from a certain angle.
Jonesy
Nov 3 2010, 06:35 PM
QUOTE (tryingtothinkagain @ Nov 3 2010, 01:10 PM)

Never said anything about cheating. She's shown no indications that she'd be willing to cheat. I'm playing the losing game here.
FTFY
QUOTE (AK_WDB @ Nov 3 2010, 01:15 PM)

Have you met her boyfriend? If not, you should. Then you'll be able to put a face and a soul on the person whose life you're trying to screw over by "playing the long game". Might make you think twice.
I'm a horrible person for laughing at this post aren't I?
(For the record, I'm not pro-cheating, just laughing at the phrasing.
overly_critical_man
Nov 3 2010, 06:47 PM
"Long" game is probably the reason why that guy's been around for five years.
TheWerg
Nov 3 2010, 07:44 PM
I'm actually with TTTA. She's an adult and she can make her own decisions. It may suck for that dude, but hey, if he treats her well, he has the inside track no matter what you do. So if she's willing to leave him like that, all is probably not well. And besides, it's unreasonable to expect her to stay with one person when she could potentially be with someone better.
Let's say I have a covered car. I offer you that car in exchange for the one you have. Even if you have a nice car, a Mercedes or something... wouldn't the best move be to at least take off the cover and check if it's a Lamborghini or a Rolls Royce? And if it is, why not trade? All TTTA is doing is asking her to take that cover off and check. Nothing wrong with that.
AK_WDB
Nov 3 2010, 08:23 PM
QUOTE (TheWerg @ Nov 3 2010, 11:44 AM)

Nothing wrong with that.
Actually there are a whole host of things wrong with that, and your analogy is outrageous. But since TTTA has clarified that what he's doing is probably acceptable, I'm not really interested in continuing this argument.
Still, TTTA, I'd advise you not to get too preoccupied with this. It's not fun to be fixated on someone who's unavailable.
overly_critical_man
Nov 3 2010, 08:38 PM
AF: I want to punch Werg in the nose.
Jonesy
Nov 3 2010, 08:43 PM
ITT: TheWerg tries to take off everyone's covers.
tryingtothinkagain
Nov 3 2010, 08:50 PM
Hey guys
did I mention she likes Firefly?
Chloe
Nov 3 2010, 09:03 PM
QUOTE (tryingtothinkagain @ Nov 3 2010, 04:50 PM)

Hey guys
did I mention she likes Firefly?
I'm curious as to the response you expected from this
Ahhh relationships....so incredibly fascinating
TheWerg
Nov 3 2010, 09:33 PM
A girlfriend is not a possession. She's a person. Who can make her own decisions. She's not married to the guy. Who's to say she wouldn't just like me better? I'm not advocating pushing her into cheating (I would strongly encourage her to break up with the guy if she really wants to be with me more). I'm just saying, until she's married, she's fair game. Not applicable if she's with your friend, of course. But if it's some guy I don't care for, and especially if she's not happy with him (often the case if she's willing to consider going to you), I frankly don't really care. I'm not responsible for his failures to keep her satisfied, interested, and happy, and if I can do that better, don't I deserve that chance?
But hey, all that matters is what helps you sleep at night. This is how I look at it, you're free to view it another way.
overly_critical_man
Nov 3 2010, 09:57 PM
QUOTE (TheWerg @ Nov 3 2010, 02:33 PM)

A girlfriend is not a possession. She's a person. Who can make her own decisions. She's not married to the guy. Who's to say she wouldn't just like me better? I'm not advocating pushing her into cheating (I would strongly encourage her to break up with the guy if she really wants to be with me more). I'm just saying, until she's married, she's fair game. Not applicable if she's with your friend, of course. But if it's some guy I don't care for, and especially if she's not happy with him (often the case if she's willing to consider going to you), I frankly don't really care. I'm not responsible for his failures to keep her satisfied, interested, and happy, and if I can do that better, don't I deserve that chance?
But hey, all that matters is what helps you sleep at night. This is how I look at it, you're free to view it another way.
Then why would marriage stop her?
Oh, because once she gets a ring on her finger, that's when she's a possession.
I get it.
AK_WDB
Nov 3 2010, 10:42 PM
I love you sometimes, OCM.
VarsityBoy
Nov 3 2010, 10:51 PM
Marriage is srs bsns. Ever heard the oath-thingy they say?
AK_WDB
Nov 3 2010, 10:59 PM
QUOTE (VarsityBoy @ Nov 3 2010, 01:51 PM)

Marriage is srs bsns. Ever heard the oath-thingy they say?
Yeah. The point is that Werg's logic of "she's not a possession" makes no sense unless he thinks a wife is a possession.
Widget!
Nov 3 2010, 11:30 PM
QUOTE (AK_WDB @ Nov 3 2010, 03:59 PM)

QUOTE (VarsityBoy @ Nov 3 2010, 01:51 PM)

Marriage is srs bsns. Ever heard the oath-thingy they say?
Yeah. The point is that Werg's logic of "she's not a possession" makes no sense unless he thinks a wife is a possession.
Except for the fact that you don't go out with a person and say you're going to be with them until death do you part.
overly_critical_man
Nov 3 2010, 11:38 PM
QUOTE (Widget! @ Nov 3 2010, 04:30 PM)

QUOTE (AK_WDB @ Nov 3 2010, 03:59 PM)

QUOTE (VarsityBoy @ Nov 3 2010, 01:51 PM)

Marriage is srs bsns. Ever heard the oath-thingy they say?
Yeah. The point is that Werg's logic of "she's not a possession" makes no sense unless he thinks a wife is a possession.
Except for the fact that you don't go out with a person and say you're going to be with them until death do you part.
Pffft...you shouldn't take something like marriage so seriously. It's just a more advanced form of dating, which as established in this thread, isn't an unbreakable bond. It's just a holding pattern until you find something better.
I mean, if I said I'm so hungry I could eat a horse, no one's going to seriously think I'm going to eat a horse, man.
ALL WOMEN ARE NOT POSSESSIONS AND THEREFORE FAIR GAME
OMG OMG NO ONE TELL RESEARCH MONKEY OMG OMG
Widget!
Nov 3 2010, 11:40 PM
QUOTE (overly_critical_man @ Nov 3 2010, 04:38 PM)

ALL WOMEN ARE NOT POSSESSIONS AND THEREFORE FAIR GAME
OMG OMG NO ONE TELL RESEARCH MONKEY OMG OMG
Wait what?
overly_critical_man
Nov 3 2010, 11:41 PM
Whatever helps you sleep at night, man.
Widget!
Nov 3 2010, 11:44 PM

The sense you were making is sense you are no longer making...
overly_critical_man
Nov 3 2010, 11:49 PM
TheWerg
Nov 3 2010, 11:53 PM
Actually almost made the joke about a wife being a possession myself, heh. I'm just saying personally I don't think I would be willing to break up a marriage. It just depends where you draw the line. But my point is, if TTTA draws the line somewhere different from you, it's not necessarily wrong.
AK_WDB
Nov 4 2010, 12:49 AM
QUOTE (Widget! @ Nov 3 2010, 03:30 PM)

Except for the fact that you don't go out with a person and say you're going to be with them until death do you part.
No, but in my opinion when you're in a relationship you are obligated not to entertain romantic advances from other people. Obviously if your relationship goes bad, you should break up, but no one should be "shopping around" unless they're single. This is partly a code of ethics for me, but partly also a practical consideration: if you have to worry constantly about your partner running off with someone else, you won't feel secure and the relationship is less likely to be comfortable.
Research Monkey
Nov 4 2010, 01:07 AM
QUOTE (overly_critical_man @ Nov 3 2010, 04:38 PM)

ALL WOMEN ARE NOT POSSESSIONS AND THEREFORE FAIR GAME
OMG OMG NO ONE TELL RESEARCH MONKEY OMG OMG
AWWWWW YEAAAAAAH
Chloe
Nov 4 2010, 01:14 AM
QUOTE (AK_WDB @ Nov 3 2010, 08:49 PM)

QUOTE (Widget! @ Nov 3 2010, 03:30 PM)

Except for the fact that you don't go out with a person and say you're going to be with them until death do you part.
No, but in my opinion when you're in a relationship you are obligated not to entertain romantic advances from other people. Obviously if your relationship goes bad, you should break up, but no one should be "shopping around" unless they're single. This is partly a code of ethics for me, but partly also a practical consideration: if you have to worry constantly about your partner running off with someone else, you won't feel secure and the relationship is less likely to be comfortable.
Maybe I've just seen too many times where people are ignorant to the poor health of their current relationship, until another possibility makes them realize the true nature of their situation...
VarsityBoy
Nov 4 2010, 01:33 AM
I've seen this.
TheWerg
Nov 4 2010, 02:02 AM
Chloe's got it right on the nose. Also, I'm not advocating being unfaithful within your own relationship. I'm just saying, you're not responsible for other people's faithfulness. As I said, ultimately it comes down to how you feel about it, but if you're okay with breaking up a relationship, then I don't think it's necessarily morally wrong.
overly_critical_man
Nov 4 2010, 02:30 AM
Life sucks enough without me having to fight off a bunch of douchenozzles horning in on my territory.
Seriously, it's like..."Dude, smurf off, she's spoken for."
Dr. Roffles
Nov 4 2010, 10:36 AM
yesss hahaha yessssss my data spidering parsing program works perfectly i can get all the datas all the datas are mine the datas are mine forever
yessssssssssssssssssssssssss
wait i need to write a winbugs model before the thesis meeting in 3.5 hours?
fml
tryingtothinkagain
Nov 4 2010, 03:21 PM
From the sounds of it, this may be a situation like Chloe described, but for now we're just enjoying hanging out. Every single Monday and Wednesday morning after our first class, over coffee. And sometimes after our second classes, either in the library or in a practice room.
And if I was "playing the long game" as you seem to think I am, with a more active, planned agenda, it would go something like this:

And that moment of loneliness and weakness would would not be hard to create at all. I'd elaborate, but enough of you think I'm a sociopath already...
EDIT: Before someone points out an inconsistency, I am admittedly "playing the long game," just a much more passive game and one I'm not investing much into, emotionally or otherwise.
overly_critical_man
Nov 4 2010, 04:53 PM
Man, that was a creepy post.
iMatt
Nov 4 2010, 05:41 PM
I agree, man.
Crow
Nov 4 2010, 06:09 PM
You know, I didn't think it was possible to properly derail a topic in "Not Serious Discussions", but I think TTTA has actually done it. Well done, sir.
Jonesy
Nov 4 2010, 06:14 PM
QUOTE (Crow @ Nov 4 2010, 01:09 PM)

You know, I didn't think it was possible to properly derail a topic in "Not Serious Discussions", but I think TTTA has actually done it. Well done, sir.
It's been done before. It's more impressive when someone manages to derail the "Random thoughts" topic.
tryingtothinkagain
Nov 4 2010, 07:31 PM
PS: social manipulation
PS: turned a calc 3 problem on a midterm into an algebra 1 problem and a pre-cal problem. prof's reaction when I explained it to him: "

...wait, explain that part again...I guess that works...hmm...yeah, I buy it. Well done."
iMatt
Nov 4 2010, 08:05 PM
Why is social manipulation a PS? You be trollin.
Srsly.
tryingtothinkagain
Nov 4 2010, 08:18 PM
I never intentionally troll, I just retrospectively point and laugh
Jonesy
Nov 4 2010, 08:29 PM
HR:Predicate logic raped me...
overly_critical_man
Nov 4 2010, 08:42 PM
If it's any consolation, I always thought TTTA was a creeper.
Perusse
Nov 4 2010, 09:46 PM
QUOTE (tryingtothinkagain @ Nov 4 2010, 02:31 PM)

PS: social manipulation
PS: turned a calc 3 problem on a midterm into an algebra 1 problem and a pre-cal problem. prof's reaction when I explained it to him: "

...wait, explain that part again...I guess that works...hmm...yeah, I buy it. Well done."
I'm curious--what was the problem?
tryingtothinkagain
Nov 5 2010, 12:42 AM
Find the maximum and the minimum of f(x,y)=x^2+y^2-6y bound by the graphs y=4-x^2 and y=x+2. To find the minimum of f(x,y) within the bounds, x^2 has to equal 0, so you're left with f(y) = y^2 - 6. f'(y) = 2y - 6, 0 = 2y - 6, y = 3, so the minimum of f(y) = y^2 - 6y is f(3) = -9. As it just so happens, f(0,3) is within our bounds, so f(0,3) is the minimum. To find the maximum, you'd want y to be as far from y = 3 as possible. On this graph, that happens to be at (-2,0), and, with -2 being the highest absolute value of x within the bounds, that also happens to be the highest value of f(x,y) within the bounds (f(-2,0) = 4).
VarsityBoy
Nov 5 2010, 02:53 AM
QUOTE (tryingtothinkagain @ Nov 5 2010, 12:42 AM)

Find the maximum and the minimum of f(x,y)=x^2+y^2-6y bound by the graphs y=4-x^2 and y=x+2. To find the minimum of f(x,y) within the bounds, x^2 has to equal 0, so you're left with f(y) = y^2 - 6. f'(y) = 2y - 6, 0 = 2y - 6, y = 3, so the minimum of f(y) = y^2 - 6y is f(3) = -9. As it just so happens, f(0,3) is within our bounds, so f(0,3) is the minimum. To find the maximum, you'd want y to be as far from y = 3 as possible. On this graph, that happens to be at (-2,0), and, with -2 being the highest absolute value of x within the bounds, that also happens to be the highest value of f(x,y) within the bounds (f(-2,0) = 4).
I guess that works...hmm...yeah, I buy it. Well done.
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