I was going to add a "guys do the same thing" caveat, but I forgot it. Sorry.

No, guys do not fear girls for being smart. Guys fear girls who are so obsessed with this sexual liberation and independence and female empowerment bull that they think it's OK to throw someone's heart away whenever they damn well feel like it. (Yes, I know there are guys like this too.) I would characterize such people as immoral and selfish, not smart. There's a difference.

not saying that we don't.

but intelligence is, for me, a necessity in addition to attractiveness. i avoid stupid girls the same way i avoid ugly ones.

HAve you heard of this brand new thing called sarcasm?

PS: ROCKETS BEAT LAKERS 100-92. THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT!!!!!!

There are guys who believe in male empowerment?

Game 1?

Yes, we have all heard of sarcasm. It's hard not to when so many people go around shouting "OMG THAT WAS SARCASTIC, I AM COOL BECAUSE I AM A SARCASTIC PERSON". It's funny because this makes them both not sarcastic and not cool.

Yes, they do. They are wildly intimidated by intelligence. Maybe you don't, but you're not the typical guy. I don't know what connection you're trying to make with the whole female empowerment to throwing someone's heart away thing, but I hope you're not implying that someone is a crazy feminist for pointing out some clear social inequalities.

I think I have some of the worst luck in love on these boards. I don't expect the perfect girl. Sure I would like a decent looking girl, but personality and brains are always more important. There was one girl who was very attractive who had some interest in me for a wile (mostly because I was older), but I would never pursue a relationship because her head was more empty than the stands at a Shakespeare festival in the Ozarks.

Thanks for my new signature

WHY WON'T HE BE THE KING I KNOW HE IS; THE KING I SEE INSIDE?

PS: Where I am its 12:30 which means FELIZ CINCO DE MAIO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The coolest nonphysical thing I ever did with a girl(friend) was talk about the chemistry of Diet Coke and Mentos after we blew a bunch up in a park late at night and then talk about a Mountain Goats album we listened to on the way home while waging a constant war of puns. That took a pretty smart girl...and I enjoyed that fact.

On the whole equality thing. If girls want equal treatment in a relationship, how come I a guy is always expected to pay for dinner, prom tickets, and the like?

Otherwise known as: BASICALLY MY BIRTHDAY

I totally agree with this. Too often, smart girls tend to go way out of their way to flaunt how independent they are. Now, that partly comes from the way that society raises them, but still, I agree that the overly independent aspect tends to be what's repellent, not the intelligence.

I agree with debator that a dumb girl is totally unbearable. I know the same is true for many, many smart girls, regarding dumb guys. But those same smart girls don't notice smart guys (it's not their fault; in most social circumstances, that's a hard thing to notice) and rather get interested in the attractive ones they see. The smart guy that they would totally love if they got to know him all too often falls to the wayside. And I think that's what debator was getting at.

Happy birthday then.

that's typically only at the beginning...most of my friends in long-term relationships split the cost of almost everything they do together.

In a good relationship, that shouldn't be the case. Women still appreciate chivalry, which is why it would be nice for guys to pay for stuff especially in the beginning, but eventually reasonable girls will go dutch or foot the bill for things part of the time.

Quick note: I do believe intelligence, at least the stereotypical academic type of intelligence, is NOT the most important thing in a relationship. Honesty, common sense, and devotion are far more important.

Well yeah...

I have no trouble shelling out, but it just aggravates me that many girls complain about lack equality while their boyfriend pays for dinner and the movie tickets every time they go out.

That should be a choice. I like to be chivalrous because it's how I was raised. I don't expect some sort of reciprocation for it.

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I agree. I just think that girls should stop complaining about inequality. There are tradeoffs required to keep things equal was supposed to be my point, though I don't think I did a good job of getting it across.

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Why should there be tradeoffs, can't everyone just be nice to the person they like.

The nonphysical clause sounds way more exciting than it really was. I mean, it was still exciting but...yeah, I'm not going to explain further.

But smart/dumb/pretty/ugly didn't enter into it.

Middle of May, I think, is when the first teams get them.

So... it was just you, RM?

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Bio final in six hours.....

I feel guilty for bringing up dating on this forum.

It's turned into a battle of the sexes.

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ALL WE ARE SAYYYINGGG...IS GIVE PEACE A CHAAAAANCE

How about you ask YOUR MOM.

They should be. The tradoffs should be in how they are nice to one one another. I have seen enough relationships fall apart because people don't understand that to at least have head knowledge of it.

I think we both know the appropriate Annie Hall quote here.

It seems more like an indirect battle of AD_B against some other guys.

You could have helped me out, Chloe.


Instead it was just me amidst a big sausage-fest.

Isn't that how you like it?

But on a lighter note: Let's all hold hands and sing Kumbaya

I actually mostly liked where the discussion was going.

Multiple LOL

We're not all movie buffs.

I think I'll let you have the honors here.

"Hey, don't knock masturbation! It's sex with someone I love!"

That was my favorite quote for Princeton... look where it got me.

Aww... low blow.

And: I liked where this was going as well. This has been fun, guys.

RT: Is there a reason behind putting us in groups?

So that we'll know with whom to align ourselves when Ragnarok begins.